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AMC Rambler Classic Third generation
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Dimensions | |
Wheelbase | 112 in (2,845 mm) |
Length | 195 in (4,953 mm) |
Width | 74.5 in (1,892 mm) |
Height | 55 in (1,397 mm) |
Curb weight | 2,980 lb (1,350 kg) V8 hardtop |
The 1965 model year Classics underwent a major redesign of the new platform that was introduced in 1963; essentially the 1963-1964 design with a rectilinear reskin similar to that of concurrent Ambassadors.Fresh sheet metal design was applied to the original 112 in (2,800 mm) wheelbase and 195 in (5,000 mm) long integral body-frame with only the roof, doors, and windshield as carryovers.Unchanged was the suspension system including a torque tube with coil springs with a Panhard rod.
The Rambler Classic was now shorter than - as well as visually distinctive from - the Ambassador line, while still sharing the basic body structure from the windshield back. For the first time a convertible model was available in the 770 trim version. The two-door sedan was dropped from the 770 model lineup.
The 1965 AMC Rambler 770 Convertible side view
1965
The 1965 Classic models were billed as the "Sensible Spectaculars," with emphasis on their new styling, powerful engines, and their expanded comfort and sports-type options, in contrast to the previous "economy car" image.
American Motors now only offered its modern straight-six engine design, retiring the aging 195.6 cu in (3.2 L) versions. The 1965 Classic base 550 models featured the modern and economical 128 hp (95 kW; 130 PS) 199 cu in (3.3 L) six-cylinder, which was basically a destroked 232 engine.
PERFORMANCE: 199 cu in,
- max power (SAE): 128 hp at 4,400 rpm
- max torque (SAE): 182 1b ft. 25.1 kg m at 1.600 rpm
- max number of engine rpm: 4.600
- specific power: 39.3 hp/l
- Engine capacity: 199 cu in. 3,261.01 cu cm
- Fuel consumption: 19.5 m/imp gal, 16.2 m/US gal, 14.51 x 100 km
- Max speed: 90 mph, 144,9 km/h
- power-weight ratio: 22.9 lb/hp, 10.4 kglhp
The 660 and 770 series received the 145 hp (108 kW; 147 PS) 232 cu in (3.8 L) six, while a 155 hp (116 kW; 157 PS) version was optional. Additionally, the 198 hp (148 kW; 201 PS) 287 cu in (4.7 L) or 270 hp (201 kW; 274 PS) 327 cu in (5.4 L) V8 engines were optional.
PERFORMANCE: 232 cu in
- Engine capacity: 232 cu in, 3,801.78 cu cm
- Fuel consumption: 20.5 m/imp gal, 17 m/US gal, 13.8 1 x 100 km
- Max speed: 98 mph, 157.8 km/h
- max power (SAE): 145 hp at 4,300 rpm
- max torque (SAE): 215 1b ft. 29.7 kg m at 1,600 rpm
- max engine rpm: 4.800
- specific power: 38.1 hp/l
- power-weight ratio: 19.2 lb/hp, 8.7 kg/hp
- 287 cu in
- V8 engine, capacity 287 cu in, 4,703.07 cu cm, 198 hp
- max speed 111 mph, 178.7 km/h
- 327 cu in
- V8 engine, capacity 327 cu in, 5,358.55 cu cm, 250 hp
- max speed 113 mph, 181.9 km/h and 270 hp max speed 115 mph, 185.1 km/h
Marlin
At mid-model year, AMC introduced the 1965 Marlin, a halo car for the company. It was a mid-sized fastback design using the Rambler Classic platform. Marketed as a personal luxury car, the Marlin had unique styling and featured an exceptional array of standard equipment.
1965 AMC marlin side view
1966
The 1966 model year Rambler Classics received minor trim changes and additional standard safety features, including padded dash and visors, left outside mirror, as well as seat belts for the front and rear passengers. The 660 mid-trim level was dropped leaving the 550 and 770 models for 1966. Available for the first time was a floor mounted four-speed manual transmission and a dash-mounted tachometer.
Classics received particular attention to the styling of the roofs for 1966. The two-door hardtop models received a rectangular rear window and more formal and angular "crisp-line" roofline that could be covered with vinyl trim. Sedans had an optional trim-outlined "halo" roof accent color. The station wagon's roof area over the cargo compartment was at the same level with the rest of the roof, no longer dipped down as in prior years. The wagons carried Cross Country insignia and featured 83 cubic feet (2.35 m3) of cargo space, as well as a standard roof rack. Two wagon seating capacities were available: a standard six-passenger version with two-rows of seats with a drop-down bottom-hinged tailgate incorporating a fully retracting rear window for accessing cargo, or in an optional eight-passenger version with three-rows of seats (the third rear-facing) and a left-side hinged rear fifth door.
The name Classic was no longer considered a positive factor in the marketplace and AMC began reshuffling model names in 1966.
Rambler Rebel
A top-of-the-line version of the two-door hardtop Classic was offered under the historic Rambler Rebel name. It replaced the 770-H and featured special badges and standard slim-type bucket seats with optional checked upholstery with two matching pillows. Public reaction to the tartan touch appearing in some of AMC's "Project IV" automobile show tour cars, was judged favorable enough to make the unique trim available on the Rebel hardtop.
Serving as one example to verify how AMC products were routinely derided by various automotive press, Popular Science magazine wrote that the new "Rambler Rebel reveals a sudden interest in performance," but its handling package cannot overcome the car's obsolete suspension design. However, AMC was reluctant to forfeit their Nash engineered suspension design which employed a strut type front and panhard rod controlled torque tube rear drive system, both having long coil springs to place the upper spring seats higher into the body of the car. This feature was to afford a softer ride quality and better handling by reducing the geometrical leverage of the car's center of gravity for less body roll "sway" in cornering. What was labeled as "obsolete" is juxtaposed by noting how General Motors employed a similar suspension system on their third generation Camaro and Firebird nearly twenty years later which had McPherson strut front and a torque arm mounted rear drive axle.
Rambler St. Moritz
A customized show car was displayed along production models during the 1966 automobile show circuit, the snow- and ski-themed Rambler St. Moritz station wagon. The wagon with three rows of seats featured tinted rear side "observation" windows that curved up and over the roof. The less than half of the original metal roof remaining over the cargo area was finished by a polished metal band and equipped with special ski rack. The exterior was a light ice-blue pearlescent paint, while the car's dark blue interior featured Corfam upholstery with a metallic embroidered snowflake in each seat back.
Mexico
The 1965 model year underwent the styling changes of the U.S. cars. The biggest change was AMC's new seven-main-bearing 232 cu in (3.8 L) I6 engine in 145 hp (108 kW; 147 PS) version as standard equipment and 155 hp (116 kW; 157 PS) as optional. The new engines were now manufactured in VAM's own factory that was built in 1964 at Lerma, State of Mexico. The new engines replaced the imported L-head and OHV 195.6 engines in VAM's vehicles.
The cars saw a name change for 1966, from Rambler Classic 660 to Rambler Classic 770. Despite the "trim level" upgrade, the car was mostly the same, despite that it did get slightly more luxurious over the years. The two-door Rambler Classic 770 featured individual reclining front seats and its marketing focused towards sportiness.
The VAM Rambler Classic was not available in Mexico as a two-door hardtop, two-door convertible, or four-door station wagon. The Rambler Classic model enjoyed popularity and positive image among the Mexican public. For this reason in 1967, with arrival of AMC's completely new Rebel line in the mid-size market segment, VAM continued the Rambler Classic name for its new cars.
International markets
Noteworthy were AMC's overseas business ventures involving the production of Rambler Classics that were marketed in various international markets.
Argentina
Industrias Kaiser Argentina (IKA) produced Rambler Classics in Córdoba, Argentina from 1962 to 1971. All were powered by the 3.77 L (230 cu in) overhead camshaft (OHC) straight-six "Tornado Interpector" engines that were originally developed by Kaiser Motors in the U.S. for the 1963 Jeep Gladiator pickups and Wagoneer vehicles. This engine was later produced in Argentina and increased the domestic (local sourced) content of the automobiles to gain tariff concessions for the imported components from AMC. In 1963, the best-selling model in Argentina was the IKA Rambler. A road test of an IKA Rambler Classic 660 by Revista Parabrisas noted the significant differences to the previous version, noting the stylized simple lines and more fluid design, as well as concluding that it is a large and comfortable ride for both the city and touring, as well as - depending on the driver - can be sporty.
Australia and New Zealand
Rambler Classics were assembled in Australia and New Zealand by Australian Motor Industries (AMI), Campbell Motor Industries (CMI) in Thames, New Zealand. They were made from Partial Knock Down (PKD) kits. The vehicles were partially assembled and painted at AMC's Kenosha, Wisconsin, factory. Thy were built with right-hand drive and the body had the engine, transmission, front suspension, rear axle, and doors installed. Some of the other components were boxed and shipped inside the car for final assembly by AMI or CMI. Interior components such as upholstery and various other parts were locally sourced to get import tariff concessions. The cars were also fitted with amber rear turn signal lights to comply with safety standards in Australia and New Zealand.
The Australian-assembled versions were identical in appearance to the U.S. models through the three generations.The base prices of Rambler Classics dropped with the introduction of the redesigned 1963 models due to the elimination of some standard equipment such as the recking seats and heater. Two four-door body styles were available: sedan and station wagon. A Classic sedan was offered in Australia for the first time with a manual transmission. However, the biggest selling model was the automatic six-cylinder Classic sedan with an automatic transmission. The AMI Rambler Classics exhibited high standards of assembly and finish.
Europe
All three generations of the Rambler Classics were assembled from CKD (Completely Knocked Down) kits in Renault's factory in Haren, Belgium and sold through Renault dealers in Algeria, Austria, Belgium, France, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg, The French automaker no longer had a large car in its own model range and the Rambler Classic was sold as an "executive car" in Renault's markets, and badged as the "Rambler Renault", under the terms of a cooperation agreement concluded between the two automakers on 21 November 1961.
1965 Rambler Classic-2-door hardtop rear view
Technical
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AMC Rambler Classic 3rd gen Technical details and specifications (1965-1966)
DIMENSIONS AND WEIGHT
wheel base: 112 in, 2,845 mm
front track: 58.20 in, 1,478 mm
rear track: 57.35 in, 1,457 mm
overall length: 195 in, 4,953 mm
overall width: 74.50 in, 1,892 mm
overall height: 54.33 in, 1,380 mm Convertible 54.37 in, 1,381 mm Station Wagon 84.80 in. 1.893 mm
ground clearance: 5.10 in, 155 mm Convertible 6.10 in, 155 mm
dry weight 2 door: 2,794 1b, 1,267 kg
dry weight 4 door: 2,840 1b, 1,288 kg
dry weight Convertible: 3,003 1b, 1,362 kg
dry weight Station Wagon: 3.003 lb. 1.363 kg
distribution of weight 2 door: 53.7% front axle, 46.3% rear axle
distribution of weight 4 door: 53.1% front axle, 46.9 % rear axle
distribution of weight Convertible: 52.4% front axle, 47.6% rear axleENGINE: 199 cu in
4 stroke; cylinders: 6. vertical. in line
bore and stroke: 3,75 x 3 in, 95.2 x 76.2 mm
engine capacity: 199 cu in, 3,261.01 cu cm
compression ratio: 8.5
cylinder block: cast iron
cylinder head: cast iron
crankshaft bearings: 7
valves: 2 per cylinder. overhead, in line, push-rods and rockers. hydraulic tappets
camshafts: 1. side
lubrication: gear pump, full flow filter
carburation: 1 Carter RBS 3766 S downdraught single barrel carburettor
fuel feed: mechanical pump
cooling system: waterENGINE:232 cu in
location front
4 stroke; cylinders: 6. vertical, in line
bore and stroke: 3.75 x 3.50 in. 95.2 x 88.9 mm
engine capacity: 232 cu in, 3,801.78 cu cm
compression ratio: 8.5
cylinder block: cast iron
cylinder head: cast iron
crankshaft bearings: 7
valves: 2 per cylinder, over-head, in line. slanted. push-rods and rockers, hydraulic tappets
camshafts: 1, side
lubrication: gear pump, full flow filter
carburation : 1 Holley 1931-3253 downdraught single barrel carburettor
(option) 1 Carter WCD 3888 S downdraught twin barrel carburettor
fuel feed: mechanical pump
cooling system: waterTRANSMISSION
driving wheels: rear
clutch: single dry plate
gearbox: mechanical; gears: 3 + reverse
synchromesh gears: 2nd, 3rd
gearbox ratios: I 2.610, II 1.630, III 1, rev 3.540
(option) Flash-O-Matic automatic gearbox, hydraulic torque convertor and planetary gears with 3 ratios
Flash-O-Matic automatic gearbox ratios: (1st 2.390, 2nd 1.450, 3rd 1, rev 2.090)
gear lever location: steering column
(option)manual selection, central or steering column selector lever
final drive: hypoid bevel
axle ratio: 3.150.CHASSIS
type integral
front suspension: independent, wishbones, coil springs, telesscopic dampers
rear suspension: rigid axle, torque tube, coil springs, transverse linkage bar, telescopic dampersSTEERING
recirculating ball
turns of steering wheel lock to lock: 5.
turning circle (between walls): 39 ft. 11.9 mBRAKES
drum
area rubbed by linings: total 254.43 sq in, 1,641.07 sq cm.ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT
voltage: 12 V
battery: 50 Ah
generator type: alternator, 35 Ah
ignition distributor: Delco-Remy© Motor car History
Service
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AMC Rambler Classic 3rd gen Maintenance and Service Guide (1965-1966)
Gearbox oil: 1.94 Imp pt. 2.25 US pt. 1.1 1, SAE 80
Auto gearbox oil 14.96 imp pt. 18 US pt, 8.51. AQ-ATF
Final drive oil: 3.34 imp pt. 4 US pt, 1.9 1, SAE 90
Greasing: every 33,000 miles, 53,100 km
Normal tyre pressure: front 24 psi.rear 24 psi
Width of rims: 5";
Tyres: 6.95 x 14
Fuel tank capacity: 15.8 imp gal, 19 US gal
Carrying capacity: 1,058 1b, 480 kg199 cu in
Fuel: 95 oct petrol
Engine oil change: 6.69 imp pt. 8 US pt. 3.8 1, SAE 5W-20 (winter) 10W-30 (summer), change every 6,000 miles, 9,700 km
Total lubricating system capacity: 8.21 imp pt. 10 US pt
Cooling system capacity: 17.42 imp pt. 21 US pt, 9.9 1.
gearbox oil: 1.94 imp pt. 2,25 US pt. 1.1 1, SAE 80
Final drive oil: 3.34 imp pt. 4 US pt. 1.9 1, SAE 80-90
Greasing: every 33,000 miles, 53,100 km
Valve timing; inlet opens 12°30' before tdc and closes 51°30' after bdc, exhaust opens 53°40' before bdc and closes 10°30' after232 cu in
Fuel type: 95 oct petrol
Engine oil change: 6.69 imp pt. 8 US pt, 3.8 1, SAE 5W-20 (winter) 20W-30 (summer), change every 6.000 miles. 9.700 km
Total lubricating system capacity: 8.27 imp pt, 10 US pt. 4.71
Cooling system capacity: 17.42 imp Pt. 21 US Pt. 9.9 1.
Valve timing: inlet opens 12°30' before tdc and closes 51°30' after bdc, exhaust opens 53°30' before bdc and closes 10°30' after tdc© Motor car History
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